P&T Accounts & Finance Officers Association new office bearers :
Dear All

Today, Circle Working Committee (CWC), Delhi Circle arranged meeting cum welcome party for the newly joined AAOs of DOT & DOP Delhi during lunch hours in o/o GM(F) Postal, Civil Lines, Delhi 110054.

More than 100 officers participate in this meeting representing DOT/DOP Hq, CCA, GM Finance (DAP), CGCA and NICF etc.

Besides organisational issues,  matters relating to holding of next All India Conference & other important Cadre related issues were discussed in the presence of All India leaders-Shri D R Yadav ji General Secretary & President-Shri Mahesh Kumar ji who also addressed the house and motivated all of us. CHQ Leadership also explained future action plan  for betterment of  IP&TAFS Cadre as well as strengthening of Association.

After resignation of  previous working committee of delhi circle,  Mr R C  Kumar (CHQ Leader) was appointed as Election Observer for conducting election of new working committee.

Election was held unanimously and  important portfolio were assigned to the following members :-
1) President, Sh.N.K.Chauhan from CGCA.
2) Circle Secretary Sh. Parveen Dagar, AAO, DoT Hq.
3)Additional Circle Secretary Shri PK Jain from Pr CCA Delhi
4) Finance Secretary Sh. Raj kumar Meena, AAO, DoT Hq.
5) Additional Finance Secretary Shri Vinod Bhardwaj from DoP and
6) Audior Ms. Jyotsna Sandhu, AAO, DOT Hq.

In the Circle Working Committee (CWC), there are 15 Office bearers, one Auditor and 7 Executive Members/ Spl invites. CWC is represented by more than 40% female officers. Full list with mobile numbers etc shall be shared shortly.

We congratulate all newly elected leaders  and assured them full cooperation.

Followed by meeting,  lunch was served to all.

 Regards,

 N.K.Chauhan
 President
Mobile:9968252160

// message from WhatsApp//

No. AIPAEA/CHQ/2019 Dated 25.02.2019
To,
Shri A.N. Nanda,
Secretary (Posts) & Chairman PS Board,
Department of Posts,
Dak Bhawan,
New Delhi- 110 001.
Sub: - Decentralization of Postal Accounts – Protest day on 27.02.2019 – Regarding. 
Respected Sir,

I wish to bring to your kind notice the anguish of the employees of the Postal 

Accounts over the decision to decentralize the Postal Accounts. It is very unfortunate 

that such a decision which is having far reaching consequences on the structure of the 

Postal Accounts and its functioning has been taken without taking the views of the Staff 

Side into consideration. This Association is observing the protest day on 27.02.2019 to 

bring to your kind notice the agitated feelings of the Postal Accounts Staff. 

In the year 1987, when the use of technology was in the nascent stage, the Postal 

Department has decided to deploy the Staff of the Postal Accounts to the field units. As 

that experiment was not successful, it was withdrawn. Realizing fully well that the 

centralized PAO set up can only effectively plug the financial loopholes; it has been 

assured time and again that there will be no decentralization of the Postal Accounts. 

I submit that, the Department has deployed the most modern IT tools and this 

will obliterate the need for any physical deployment of personnel. The proximity of the 

maker and checker will reduce the effectiveness of the checks and it will neither serve 

the interest of the Department nor the Staff. 

Hence, I earnestly request you to kindly reconsider the decision of deployment of 

manpower from DAP to Head Office / Divisional Office for pre-check of all kind of 

vouchers and concurrent audit in the post CSI scenario. I also request you to kindly 

direct the concerned to initiate a dialogue with the Staff Side immediately. 

With Regards, 

Yours Sincerely
(S. B. YADAV)
General Secretary
Copy to:
1. The JS&FA, Department of Posts, New Delhi for necessary action.
2. The Sr. DDG (PAF), Department of Posts, New Delhi for necessary action.



3. Secretary General, NFPE, North Avenue, New Delhi. 

  ref : Employment News 2nd March-19

RANK AND PAY LEVEL : 

Equivalence according to 7^th CPC:

The equivalent ranks between Tri-Services, Civil Services and IPS according to their pay scale are as follows:

Level 10	Lieutenant	Assistant SP	assistant collector
Level 10A	Captain	Addl.SP	sub Collector
Level 11	Major	SP	Collector Collector
Level 12/12A	Lt. Colonel	SP
Level 13	Colonel	SP	Collector(selection grade)
Level 13A	Brigadier	DIG	–
Level 14	Major General	IG	Secy(state govt.)
Level 15	Lt. Gen(HAG)	ADGP	Principal Secy(state govt.)
Level 16	Lt Gen(Corps Commander)	DG (HAG+)	Addl. Chief Secretary/Spl. Chief Secretary
Level 17	Lt Gen(Army Commander)	DGP (HoPF)	Chief Secretary
Level 18	General	–	Cabinet Secretary

Far from Reality:

These equivalence are far from reality. Because if the pay scale were to be considered, defence officers get extra Military Service Pay that makes them superior to their IPS and Civil counterparts, which is clearly not the case.

Also, the time frame for promotion of IAS officers were not reduced. This basically means that an IAS officer, after 14 years of service, would be granted the pay-scale of a Maj Gen, having 33 years of service. While this does not mean that an IAS officer with 14 years of service becomes equivalent in status to a Maj Gen, since only those IAS officers in the super time scale who are empanelled and holding posts of Joint Secy to Govt of India can be equated with a Maj Gen, still the monetary package granted to IAS officers with 14 years of service would be the same as Major Generals.

Also, since the Cabinet Secretary is the highest civil servant of India, his status is higher than the General of Indian Army.

Who will salute / greet to whom ??

The Correct Equivalence – The Order of Precedence:

The correct equivalence however, only virtually exists. The status of various officer holders are given below in the decreasing order of precedence. And this defines their status equivalence in All India Services. This means that person below the status of preceding person must salute/greet the person with higher status:

Rank	Officer
1	President
2	Vice-President
3	Prime Minister
4	Governors of States
5	Former Presidents
5A	Deputy Prime Minister
6	·         Chief Justice ·         Speaker of the Lok Sabha
7	·         Cabinet Ministers of the Union ·         Chief Ministers of States ·         Deputy Chairman of the NITI Aayog ·         Former Prime Ministers ·         Leaders of the Opposition in the Rajya Sabha and the Lok Sabha
7A	·         Holders of the Bharat Ratna
8	·         Ambassadors Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary and the High Commissioners of Commonwealth countries accredited to India ·         Chief Ministers of States (when outside their respective States) ·         Governors of States (when outside their respective States)
9	·         Judges of the Supreme Court of India
9A	·         Chairman, Union Public Service Commission ·         Chief Election Commissioner ·         Comptroller and Auditor General
10	·         Deputy Chairman of the Rajya Sabha ·         Deputy Chief Ministers of States ·         Deputy Speaker of the Lok Sabha ·         Members of the NITI Aayog ·         Ministers of States of the Union
11	·         Lieutenants Governor of Union Territories (within their respective Union Territories) ·         Attorney General ·         Cabinet Secretary
12	·         Chiefs of Staff holding the rank of full General or equivalent rank
13	·         Envoys Extraordinary and Ministers Plenipotentiary accredited to India
14	·         Chief Justices of States ·         Chairmen and Speakers of State Legislatures (within their respective States)
15	·         Chief Ministers of Union Territories (within their respective Union Territories) ·         Cabinet Ministers in States (within their respective States) ·         Chief Executive Councillor of Delhi (within their respective Union Territories) ·         Deputy Ministers of the Union
16	·         Officiating Chiefs of Staff holding the rank of Lieutenant-General or equivalent rank
17	·         Judges of High Courts, ·         Chairman, Central Administrative Tribunal ·         Chairman, Minorities Commission ·         Chairman, Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes Commission
18	·         Cabinet Ministers in States (outside their respective States) ·         Chairmen and Speakers of State Legislatures (outside their respective States) ·         Chairman, Monopolies and Restrictive Trade Practices Commission ·         Deputy Chairmen and Deputy Speakers of State Legislatures (within their respective States) ·         Ministers of State in States (within their respective States) ·         Ministers of Union Territories and Executive Councillors of Delhi (within their respective Union Territories) ·         Speakers of Legislative Assemblies in Union Territories ·         Chairman of Delhi Metropolitan Council (within their respective Union Territories)
19	·         Chief Commissioners of Union Territories not having Councils of Ministers (within their respective Union Territories) ·         Deputy Ministers in States (within their respective States) ·         Deputy Speakers of Legislative Assemblies in Union Territories ·         Deputy Chairman of Delhi Metropolitan Council (with in their respective Union Territories)
20	·         Deputy Chairmen and Deputy Speakers of State Legislatures (outside their respective States) ·         Ministers of State in States (outside their respective State)
21	·         Members of Parliament
22	·         Deputy Ministers in States (outside their respective States)
23	·         Secretaries to Government of India ·         Army Commanders/Vice Chief of the Army Staff or equivalent in other Services ·         Chief Secretaries to State Governments (within their respective States) ·         Commissioner for Linguistic Minorities ·         Commissioner for Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes ·         Members, Minorities Commission ·         Members, Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes Commission ·         Officers of the rank of full General or equivalent rank ·         Secretary, Minorities Commission ·         Secretary, Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes Commission ·         Secretary to the President ·         Secretary to the Prime Minister ·         Secretary, Rajya Sabha/Lok Sabha ·         Solicitor General ·         Vice-Chairman, Central Administrative Tribunal
24	·         Lieutenant Generals ·         Air Marshals ·         Vice Admirals
25	·         Additional Secretaries to Government of India ·         Advocate Generals of States ·         Additional Solicitor Generals ·         Chairman, Tariff Commission ·         Charge Affairs and Acting High Commissioners a pied and ad. interim. ·         Chief Ministers of Union Territories (outside their respective Union Territories) ·         Chief Executive Councillor of Delhi (outside their respective Union Territories) ·         Chief Secretaries of State Governments (outside their respective States) ·         Deputy Comptroller and Auditor General ·         Deputy Speakers of Legislative Assemblies in Union Territories ·         Chairman of Delhi Metropolitan Council (outside their respective Union Territories) ·         Deputy Chairman of Delhi Metropolitan Council (outside their respective Union Territories) ·         Director of the Intelligence Bureau ·         Director, Central Bureau of Investigation ·         Director-General, Border Security Force ·         Director-General, Central Reserve Police Force ·         Lieutenants Governor of Union Territories (outside their respective Union Territories) ·         Members, Central Administrative Tribunal ·         Members, Monopolies and Restrictive Trade Practices Commission ·         Members, Union Public Service Commission ·         Ministers of Union Territories and Executives Councillors of Delhi ·         Principal Staff Officers of the Armed Forces of the rank of Major General or equivalent rank ·         Speakers of Legislative Assemblies in Union Territories
26	·         Joint Secretaries to Government of India ·         Major Generals ·         Rear Admirals ·         Air Vice Marshals

Conclusion:

It is very hard to define exact rank equivalence of defence officers with their other counterparts as there are many criterion to be considered. However, the one that should be followed is the order of precedence that defines the status of the personnel in the order.